With those pet owners who are vexed by pests disturbing their pets, can rest unbothered with the all-new Sergeant’s Nature’s Guardian manufactured by Sergeant’s Pet Care Products that promises to protect your pets from fleas, ticks and mosquitoes.
To quote Joel Adamson, senior vice president of business development and marketing services, Sergeant’s Pet Care Products:
Sergeant’s Nature’s Guardian flea and tick products are not only proven to be effective, they are also formulated with all low-risk components, so parents and pet owners can take comfort in knowing that these products are labeled to be safe for use around children and pets when used according to directions.
The best part of these products is that they are made from botanical ingredients that are classified as ‘Generally Recognized As Safe’, so the pet owners can actually feel safe when using these products for their cats and dogs.
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i had seen this new product ’natures guardian’ on the shelves at the local grocery store. i thought that i would check it out online before i got it to try for my cat. well i went onto the sergeants website and it was not listed. well this page does not list and side affects and reading the 2 prior comments on this page regarding this new product, i am scared to try it on my cat. i dont want to torcure my cat just because i thought i wanted to try something new. i will not be buying this product and for the rest of you who see this post please dont buy it for your pet. especially when it risks in harming your pet.
Yeah, we just tried it on our 6 cats, love the natural stuff idea ! I think just use half of the tube/vial and put the other half on the next cat ! The smell is like a house freshner, but considering the alternatives, I can live with it. So far, it has not hurt my/our 6 cats ! It did make them oily there for a day or two, if that is all, fine. I can at least know it is not pesticides on my pet. AND we are using it on the nursing mom too. IT is reasonably priced, on our 3 rd box of it now. Just hope it works good, as fleas have been just awful with all the dry weather here. ANd the prices the vets charge now, is legalized stealing!
Use garlic/brewers yeast combo which comes in tabs. Cheap and works beautifully for my dogs! Live in a Florida ( BUG LAND!)...had problem with pests in spite of using all of the lesding flea products. No longer do I have a problem and nice thing is this stuff is cheap and does not hurt our pets which chemicals from frontline, ect do. Found online or off... look on natural pet food sites or buy locally at a health store (call first and see if they carry pet products).
Linda
Do not use garlic to control fleas in cats. Cats are NOT dogs–garlic can build up in their system and make them sick. I would also like to see the ingredients listed on the Sargent’s product. Cats are VERY sensitive to natural ”herbs” and essential oils can be deadly for them.
Stay away from pyrethrin made from chrysanthemum flowers, pine oils–just leave OILS alone unless a vet approves their use and tells you how much to use.
My POOR cat is really upset right now because we used this product. He won’t let us near him to wash it off and he is licking it off of himself as fast as he can. I really do believe it’s burning his skin. (Other people in the household are trying to catch him now...don’t worry. I’m not wasting time.) DO NOT BUY THIS PRODUCT. It’s still on shelves, but do not even be tempted. I’m sorry to all of those who had one, or multiple cats with the same reaction.
Im not sure if the spray is the cause of one cats illness.. I used it on 3 cats and since then I have a female that has stayed in my bed all day.. which isnt normal.. shes not eating but is drinking.. she has used my bed as a litter box.. seems weak.. and fatigued.. and has been shivering.. she will not groom herself either.. I have bathed her in the hopes that it helps but so far theres no change.. half the time she sleeps shes half way reclined.. like between sitting n laying.. she looks pitiful.. chances are I wont be using this product again althou the other cats seem fine!
Not only does this stuff stink, but one cat (of the 4 I used Nature’s Guardian on) has nearly lost all of his hair on the back of his neck! Another almost went into convulsions. No more of this stuff!!
We used sergeants natures guardian for our dogs after 2 weeks our pomeranian has suffered a seizure our Vet has said it is from this product please lets help get it off the market!!!
I use the Sergeant’s Nature’s Gueardian on my 5 dogs and it works like a charm. None of my dogs have had any adverse reactions to it and it really kills the fleas. We have new kittens in our home and the Cat version was unavailable, so we used the Dog version - however, instead of spraying it directly on the kittens, we simply put it on our hands and rubbed it on. After treating our carpets with the Nature’s Guardian Natural Flea & Tick Carpet Powder and treating our yards with Seven-5 (not sure which manufacturer) the flea problem is non-existent on our home now!
I think a little common sense in applying this product and using it only the way it is reccomended will show good results - and, NO, I do not own stock in Sergeant’s Pet Care Products, nor do I work for them. LOL
I applied this to all 4 of my dogs and they all went crazy trying to get it off. The smell is sooooo overwhelming. This product needs to be taken off the market. Natural products... I would rather smell a chemical. Nice job Sergeants.
First of all THIS PRODUCTS IS NOT NATURAL !!!! Please read the label before buying it. It contains isopropyl alkohol and carbon dioxide. Oils have no power to kill fleas. Never use any essential oil on cats or give garlic tablets or use lemon spray. What’s good for dogs can be deadly for cats !!
I used this product on my six year old cat a week ago (exactly as prescribed) and not only did it fail to kill a single flea but now he sleeps all day and has recently stopped eating and drinking. He also hisses when picked up which he’s never done before. I haven’t taken him to a vet yet but after reading the other posts I’m thinking his illness might be due to this product. I also looked up isopropylmyristate and found it to be a known skin, eye, and resporitory irritant.
Jenn, I read your comment and I was wondering how your cat was doing. My cat has had baically the same symptems as your cat. However his symptems came 5 days later. We have taken him to the vet and they gave him medicine to stimulate his appetite. He is so weak from not eating. We are having to feed him. And the medicine he is on has made him so sleepy. I feel sorry for him. The vet told my mom that it may have been this product that caused him to get sick.
I used this product (spray form) on our 8 dogs and 2 cats. There were no reactions from anyone. The smell is rather strong at first but settles down after an hour or so and actually leaves them smelling nicely for about a week. I had tried shampoos and dips and drops to no avail at getting rid of the fleas. This stuff worked great, worked the first time and one application kept on working for 3 weeks. We are just now seeing a few new small fleas. I figure in a couple more months our house, yard and pets will be completely flea free for good. We foster so that may be a bit optimistic. Before you decide not to use this product it would be good to keep in mind that most of the people that post about specific products are those that have had an issue with it not those that have not. BTW our vet did reccomend we not use it on our cats again. He said there is no problem with use on dogs.
Oh my goodness...I just bought the squeeze-on version of this, hoping it’d be ok when my kitten get older (she’s only 9 wks. now). Thanks to you guys I will be looking for another alternative.
I wouldn’t buy any sergeants products. I bought skip flea and tick shampoo, it did not work at all. As far as nature’s guardian, all those oils are very strong, and yes, can burn your pets skin. When I called to complain, they were less then helpful. Claimed that the fleas this year are resistant to alot of there products??? What are they , SUPER FLEAS!!!!! So, my poor dog who is 14 years old, still has to suffer, because I am afraid of over-toxifying him, with yet another insecticide. He has been shaking for 4 hours now, since I bathed him in that shampoo!!!
I loved the idea of a natural product against fleas and ticks. I am a botanist and carefully read the label, it is all natural, so I used it on my cat. The fleas are gone, but after a few days he started to loose hair on his neck and he has a severe case of dandruff and dry skin. He itches terribly.
I could care less about the strong smell, but honestly, the oils that they use are giving him a bad alergy on his skin.
I don’t think I’ll ever use it again.
I sent a message to Sergeants and I think that those who have had a bad experience should too.
My message was as followed:
I believe your product needs more testing before being released. The fact that it would not kill my cat does not mean that it has no toxicity for my cat. After using the squeeze on pipettes on my cat he developed a bad allergy, loosing hair like crazy and having dried skin, that flakes and itches a lot. Tufts of hair fall off of him each time he scratches or I pet him. Besides flakes of dry skin keep forming on the area where I applied the liquid.
I would greatly appreciate you to retire the product from the stores, to add a warning on how some cats might react, and to be more careful in the future, before releasing products.
If this was medicine for humans it would have never passed the FDA.
Do NOT use this product on your cats. As soon as I used Nature’s Guardian on my three cats, they all started drooling, running around and doing everything they could to get the oil off. It smells way too strong for me, which means it’s so much worse for their sensitive noses. I gave them each a wipe-down with regular cat shampoo to try to remove it for them. My youngest cat has retreated to under the bed and will not come out. I’ve never had a problem with Frontline and will definitely go back to using that. I also could not find any further information on the Sergeant’s website which makes me suspicious. Please do not use the product. I’m so upset about what it did to my cats - I feel terrible that I used it.
Deadly. DO NOT USE.
My roommate tried this shampoo on her cats. Within one hour after we used the shampoo, one of the cats let out a kind of yelp, then fell over. Within 2 minutes after that, it was dead. The cat was 12 years old, a bit up there in age, but it should have had a few years left.
i to used this product on my two cats.on my male cat he lost a big spot of hair in his neck.also burnt his skin.i had to give them both a bath.the female cat this didnt harm her.now i went from channel 2 through 13 and sent emails about this procut.i think this should be taken off the market.my heart goes out to the people who lost there pets.
OMG, I am so glad I found this blog. I thought maybe it was just my dog that had the adverse reaction to the Sergeants product. He ran away from me, around in circles and rolled in the grass to get it off. I shampooed him right away. But he has been lethargic all day along. I hope he’ll be ok.
I love this product. My dog has had no adverse reactions at all and since it is gentle enough to apply more often than once per month, I’ve been using it approximately every three weeks. That’s because the summer has been tough on us all in South Georgia!
The product lists under ”other ingredients” two harmless ingredients.
Wickipedia defines them as this:
Isopropyl myristate is used in cosmetic and topical medicinal preparations where good absorption through the skin is desired. It is also used as a pesticide-free treatment against head lice which works by dissolving the wax that covers the exoskeleton of head lice, killing them by dehydration.[2]
Vanillin is the primary component of the extract of the vanilla bean. Synthetic vanillin is used as a flavoring agent in foods, beverages, and pharmaceuticals.
So, the two ingredients work together for quick absorption. If you put apply it to your dog correctly, there is no way the dog can reach the area on his back to lick it, but, if somehow he managed to lick the harmful products, he would also get a taste of vanilla!
The aroma of this product is so much better than any pesticide that you may be putting on your pet.
Of course your vet will tell you not to use this product, because he has to push the poison that the pharmaceutical companies supply him with, then convince you to use them, so that he can make a large profit.
I feel so badly for any of you whose animal had a bad reaction to this product. It’s absolutely great.
Do Not Use this Product!!! I used this on my kitten like it says that it can be and I followed the directions just like it said and my poor kitten started acting really weird about 5 minutes or less after I applied it to her. She started running around the house crying like she has never done before. She started rubbing on the furniture and licking it off. She was scratching her neck like she was on fire. I washed it off of her right away. The smell is the worst smelling chemical ever. All my kitten has done is sleep. Which is not normal at all. This product needs removed. All it is, is poision. Please do not use this product all it is is causing pain to your pet. It is not fair to them. I wish I would of researched this before. I am going back to using Advantage.
Natures Guardian Flea Control. DO NOT USE THIS PRODUCT. I put this on my adult cat as directed. She didn’t have a reaction immediately, BUT the product made her lethargic. She has layed on the couch for a month (literally). She also began to walk with a limp. I took her to the vet and he could find nothing wrong with her. I have been carefully watching her to make sure she gets plenty of fluids (I have been putting her food bowl on the couch so she would eat)and finally today, she seems to be coming out of it. I read this blog and realized that these oils are toxic to cats. Don’t make the mistake I made.
I was overwhelmed by the smell when I first put it on her. I immediately researched it and read this blog. I tried to wash the oil off of her with a soapy cloth and then rinse it but even doing that, it made her ill. I’m so happy that today she walked out into the sun room to enjoy the fall sunshine. This is the first interest in life she has shown in an entire month. I have been heartbroken because I put this stuff on her. I hope this saves others this torment.
I read through all of the posts and I’m glad to say that I am 100 percent behind this product. We have used all of these oils before on our dog and cat, However they were purchased individually at an Esoteric shop. We had no problems in the past so I was delighted to find this product in our local Meijer because it’s much cheaper than purchasing the essential oils individually. Unfortunately our Meijer had all of these fine products on a more than 50 percent of price tag. This saddens me because I know this means they are no longer going to carry the product. I’m sure it’s due to the negative feedback. Most of which I can only assume is due to the peppermint in the product.
I have used Now Peppermint Essential oil on my cat, I use it to clean my living room wood floors, my bathroom etc. I have never had a problem with peppermint and my cat. I have researched quite a bit on peppermint and cat sensitivity and just as you should be cautious when using peppermint around young children you should use caution with cat’s as well. Common sense tells me not to place it where my cat or children can ingest large quantities of it. My cat can’t reach the very back of his neck, nor does he lick the living room floors. Yes peppermint burns the skin initially, I use it near my nose and a slight tiny bit under my eyes for my sinusitis. YES it will burn but the burning dissipates. This may be what everyone else’s cat’s are reacting to?
Btw ~ Catnip and peppermint are in the same family. Many cats will act the same way towards peppermint as towards catnip.
I’ll add my two cents worth about Nature’s Guardian for cats. I applied the squeeze-on variety of this product to my four cats about three days ago. So far no problems with three of the cats; however, my eight month old male has developed a mass of bumps or blisters on his neck at the point of application. I have written Sergeant’s and am waiting for a reply. Today I’m going to attempt to wash the product off the effected cat. After reading the other posts here, I think it is obvious that some cats have a vilent reaction to this product. I have no way of knowing how many cats are effected, but even if it is one in a thousand I don’t like the odds when it comes to my animals. In fairness to the company the precautionary statements do say that ”sensitivities may occur after using ANY product for pets”. I can only advise caution when using this product. Perhaps a very small application of a drop or two to test spot on your pet would be a good idea before you apply a whole vile. Then watch carefully for any adverse reaction and be prepared to wash the area in the event of a reaction.
Do NOT USE this product . I used the squeese on version for cats. VERY oily and too pungent. Poor cat went wild. Very hard to try to get it off. Her coat is still greasy and she still smells. Have read of worse reactions. Hope she doesn’t lose her fur.
I have used the for cats version of the Nature’s Guardian, the spot treatment. My cat never had any problems with it, though he did decide to go lay on my boyfriends clean work pants and left a huge oily spoit, but spray & wash and a regular wash took care of that. I use the spray on the cat’s cat tree and the couch and in the spots where the cat lays. I have not yet used the spray on my cat. I usually bathe my cat every two weeks with IVORY dishsoap. I’ve found that flea and tick shampoos never work and aren’t worth the chemical risk. HOwever, I did find a flea on myself and i captured it and sprayed it with the Natures Guardian spray, the flea died within seconds!!!!! That tells me it works. Again essential oils can be toxic to cats, however some cats can tolerate and will tolerate the oils as long as they are ONLY applied to the fur and not the skin. I believe that cats habe different reactions just like people have different reations to things. Everyone is different and some are more sensative that others. As I have not had any problems with the Nature’s Guardian on my cat, and there are others that have not had any problems, tells me that just because some people’s pets did have reactions it does not mean all will. It is relatively safe and i think the smell is SPICEY like those cinnamon pine cones stores sell at christmas. If you like those, this spray won’t be any worse than that. Makes it smell pretty clean in my home actually.
This product has MURDERED my pet!
I’m suing!
Stay the hell away from Sergeant’s Nature’s Guardian products!
I applied the Natures Guardian spot treatment to my cat a week ago and so far it’s been great! At first the strong peppermint smell bothered her a bit but other than that, no problems. The first few days she was like a walking room freshener but the peppermint smell slowly lessened. I feel that anything you feed or put on your cat can have side effects. Just like humans, everyones different. This product worked for us and I am very happy that we have a natural alternative to the poisons that are in the regular flea and tick products.
I applied 1/3 of an application tube of Nature’s Guardian Natural Flea treatment (for cats all sizes) to my cat today. Within seconds of having the product on she began foaming at the mouth and having leg spasms/seizures. I have used other flea products (chemical based) on her before with no adverse reaction. I wanted to try Nature’s Guardian because it claimed to be all natural and safe for pets AND children. I’m thankful that I didn’t use a whole dose otherwise the end result could have been fatal.
I have a dog (for now) that is in teetering between life and death because of Sergeant’s Nature’s Guardian. She was recently diagnosed with Addison’s Disease, which affects the adrenal glands. After bringing her home from the vet, I decided to try this product. Within 24 hours of using it, Diva was losing all control of her nervous system and started having seizures. The vet says it is because of the essential oils in this product, which could potentially affect ANY dog, not just one with Addison’s Disease. I am now facing a $300+ vet bill which I’ve not been able to contact Sergeant’s yet to try to get them to pay my vet bill or atleast put a warning on their packaging, but I have a feeling they will deny everything my vet says anyways. If ANY of you who read this review truly love your dog(s), PLEASE don’t buy this product! It’s not worth potentially killing your pet in order to save a few dollars!
Warren,
Contact Sergeant’s immediately to document your case and create a paper trail
Fill out the comment form on the ”Contact Us” tab:
http://www.sergeantsnatural.com/contact.asp
I filed a complaint (after my cat had a horrible reaction immediately after the application) and they responded to me within 24 hours. I’m sending the unused portion of the product back to them for testing (and a refund)
Sergeant’s really needs to put more warnings on their products. In their response to me they told me that the label does state that sensitivities may occur...
That is really reading between the lines... My definition of sensitivity means ”some skin irritation” NOT foaming at the mouth and/or seizures. If that’s the case then they need to clearly state that on the box so pet owners can make an informed decision.
I hope your dog gets better.
One more thing...
Be sure to record the Batch # from the tube (if you still have it) and include that in your complaint.
It could be that the product was mixed incorrectly for that batch.
The batch I used was labeled: 2887P12
I’m really terrified after reading these comments...
This is not the first time I apply Nature’s Guardian to my cats. It was fine before. But today, one week after I applied the oil to them, I suddenly found my cats losing patches of hair at the back of their necks. I washed them with water, hope it helps.
My cats are still very energetic, very ”normal” now. Will they become ill then? Will they only lose hair at the area the oil was applied, then grow back as normal, or anything worse will happen?
Please share your experience with me.
Can anyone tell me what should I do to my cats now?
It never fails to amaze me the number of scientifically illiterate who have no shame but to advertise their ignorance so far and wide.
First, the product’s active ingredients are PEPPERMINT OIL, CLOVE OIL AND LEMON GRASS OIL.
None of these are POISONOUS if used as directed, and none of these are reason to pull off shelves, except the product does cut into the really nasty Big Pharma liver-destroying alternatives out there.
However, for the hopelessly clueless, let’s offer this bit of common sense:
Clove Oil and Perppermint oil CAN, if applied in excessive dosages, provide a warm to hot sensation, that passes in a few minutes. It won’t kill, and they certainly don’t give seizures two weeks later (remember, vets get bonuses for pushing Big Pharma meds over natural solutions).
All oils in this formulation - and I have checked before applying them to my pets, are dosed down for pet skin application. Read the labels and see if you can do the math (I doubt Ms. ’alkohol’ can read past 8th grade English)...
As usual, every pet is individual, and you as a pet owner are supposed to know how sensitive your own pet is, and engage your BRAIN, and edit the dose appropriately, as at least one thinking person here has done with success.
As for the Big Pharma ”scalliwags” showing up here with bogus and outrageous claims, be gone. As for the rest, perhaps you’re in over your heads owning pets.
Instead of taking good products off the market, perhaps we should take the ignorant and clueless off the pet owners market.
Oh yeah, while we’re on the subject of smell: clove oil does give off a strong pot pourri smell, and the cats and dogs sensitive noses will smell that and run around a bit, until their sniffers adjust. Grow up and deal with it, as the monthly alternative is a liver and kidney destroying chemical.
DO NOT USE THIS PRODUCT!!!! It Almost Killed my mom’s toy poodle. Two weeks after using this product he started having seizures. If you love your pet and you don’t want to lose them. DO NOT USE THIS PRODUCT....
I can’t believe the crap people are writing here. It makes me wonder if the companies that make pet products with dangerous chemicals hire people to post blog lies about natural alternatives so they don’t lose money.
Of course your cat will try to wash his/her fur after you apply smelly stuff on her. Yes, one thing that’s true is that essential oils do smell when they are not mixed with tons of crap.
If you talk to your vet, you will find out that chemical flea baths don’t work beyond the initial wash...so fleas are free to jump right back on your pet and continue biting.
Some commercial products, like Advantix, are extremely dangerous to pets (especially cats) and have caused seizures and deaths. That’s why I think they hired people to blog those accusations about natural products — because vets used to post in professional forums about the dangers, until they were forced by greedy corporations to remove the facts.
How better to retaliate then re-direct horrifying facts about their own products into false allegations against safe alternatives, and force the money stream to continue their way?
For my own experience, the Nature’s Guardian pump and spray (marked safe for kitteds) were a lifesaver at my house a couple years ago.
Unlike the chemical alternatives, these products work, and continue to work, because you do not need to wash them off. Their essential oils smother the little critters to death and create a totally inhospitable environment for eggs to hatch.
Just make sure that, when you spray the aerosol on the fabric/rug surfaces in your house, you remember to get underneath the furniture (the underside of chairs, etc.)! Don’t forget to wash everything you can in hot water (sheets, pillows, curtains, etc.) then spray those, too.
Use the pump on a cat because the aerosol will sound like threatening hissing. However, both forms are identical except for the aerosol, so it is safe to use either on your pet.
The only valid warning (not posted here) is there is a safety hazzard if there are elderly/children/otherwise unsteady or accident-prone people in the house. After you spray the stuff on the rugs, it gets tracked all over the rest of the house, making it like an ice-skating rink for a week or two. But it’s worth it!
I guarantee your pets won’t like the product, because of the smell, but that’s irrelevant next to the risk of multiplying fleas and possible parasitic infections from fleas.
I even got some in my eye (I wear contacts), and thought I’d have to flush it. At first I thought it was burning, but it wasn’t really — more like the fake ”burning” sensation that reminds you of the same feeling cinnamon sprays create on your tongue — that’s the closest way to describe it.
In reality it did not actually burn or irritate my eye.
You could also give your pet an initial bath in a concentrated dishwashing detergent with real lemon, but don’t repeat it. I took a shower in that once myself (mosquitoes, and also fleas, apparently like me for some reason) — it is very drying.
As least if you do a one-off bath with lemon dishwashing liquid (which kills any fleas present at the moment, and cleans your pet of their remains), follow it up with the Nature’s Guardian right away, if you can, so their skin won’t continue to get dry.
Bathing tip for cats: Whether to wear gloves or not depends if your pet is submissive and generally likes to be handled. Don’t actually place the cat i water (they will freak). Get everything ready, including a pitcher of some sort. Fill up a dishpan in the opposite side of the sink with comfortably warm water. Have a helper so they can hand you what you need when you need it. Have towels ready. Gently pour (don’t douse) water to wet the cat’s fur. Lather cat up (don’t use too much), trying to get all the way to skin. Rinse gently several times, try to get water down to the skin. Gently dry your cat as much as you can.
Never chase your cat/dog for any reason. (It teaches them they can get away and increases negative feelings about what you do.) Sporadically walk by as if going somewhere else and pick them up with no fanfare. Do this often when you are not planning something unpleasant.
You might need to use the Nature’s Guardian a few times around your house and pet to get rid of a full-blown infestation (since you always manage to miss a few). Your pet will figure out any getting-ready behaviors, so after the first time, you’ll have to just leave everything you need out ahead of time, so they can’t detect when you are about to treat them again. This is especially true of cats. Well-minding dogs can be a different story.
Don’t worry if your cat licks his/her fur — that is ok.
Er...ok, maybe you don’t want to spray the Nature’s Guardian on your sheets. (Not if you want to sleep the first night.)
However, if you have a traditional mattress and the fleas have been in your room eggs can live unhatched up to 18 months. You probably want to spray that as early in the day as possible, and maybe repeat every few months, to make sure the infestation can’t start all over again — from your mattress.
On the other hand, if you have a memory foam or other foam mattress, it and/or its slipcover may already be treated against bacteria. I think as a side benefit flea larvae can’t live in them, because the flea larvae I found on my bed (under the sheets) were dead.
Sorry about that.
For some reason one of my posts appeared blank.
The active ingredients are all similar, but for the record (as I talked about applying to your pet and spraying around the house), these are the specific forms to which I was referring:
1) Pump spray. Very convenient to work through your pet’s fur.
2) Aerosol spray. Intended to use on carpets and other soft surfaces.
Additional tip: Use concentrated lemon dishwashing liquid to wash all wood floors and tiles. Fleas can live in the cracks between tiles and wood planks, this way you can get most of them.
I bought this product thinking, ”yay, natural!”. My cat was fine until about 2 weeks after the second dose (which was 2 months after the first). I did research online and found a lot of bad reviews on it, as well as information about the toxicity to felines of essential oils. I started a petition to get this product off the market. If you have had a bad experience with this product, please sign my petition:
Thank you.
My link didn’t show up... here it is again:
http://gopetition.com/online/20923.html